i have the same problem :(

are you sure???

Thanks for all the replies. After 5 months I gathered that we really need a 4th axis. I am trying to make a mini 4th axis isometric arm just like the steadicam ones but smaller. Will update here once I prototype one.

The moza is killing it too. very smooth forward motion. Pretty cool to see.
also MrCheesycam did it, not sure which control board:


i've been working 3 straight days (24hrs!) trying to fix this walking motion, but i get nowhere. Trying every PID setting, all the other options, going #yolo with settings i dont even know what they are. Yes, walking carefully helps, and gets you close to have a near smooth shot. Running however, is pretty much impossible. Here's a clip of me doing fist running, then easy walking.
http://youtu.be/RujOJw9qxGQ

Interestingly enough, if film sideways, it is ALOT better. Probably because the roll-axis can work its magic. Still though, why wouldnt my dys eagle with the 32b controller not do what the moza, ronin and movi are doing?

if i cant get a truly smooth shot, then why use this gimbal? I'll just get back to the gym, start working out and get a ronin.

For me moving fast is quite ok , running between 0:10 - 0:20



Moving slowly is very difficult and always up and down moving, but noticed last week that with light gimbal holding just with on hand it is quite good, though still clear up and down movement.



More see here http://forum.basecamelectronics.com/index.php?p=/discussion/662/levitezer-gimbal-test-videos-#Item_42 at the bottom of the page.

Over all stationary objects at close distance is the most difficult ones. Humans and animals move, and even if they do not move, at least my eye seems to be more forgiving.

Thanks for giving good solutions. I and garug have pointed out 1 year ago its the way we walked. the best solution is a 4th axis on a steadicam else most of the time walking motion is hard to counter unless you shuffle your walk.

Thanks jeftavarwijk for the IS analysis. just changed my system to d750 with VR lens and it really worked very well coupled with shuffle walking.

@jeftavarwijk I am using RP2 from Flygimbal.com , I design the system with rigidity in mind hence after prototyping, we ended up with a system similar to dji ronin where the 3 axis uses sturdy aluminium arms rather then carbon fibre. Carbon fibre tend to resonant more when we run.

In my website you can see the intro video where I ran with a kid with no problems with vibrations when I am running.

@garug well, to be honest, i wouldn't be happy with the results, but we might have a different taste.

i do see a lot of walking motion, but i dont think it takes away from the images because i dont sense you want to emulate a crazy flexible jib or dolly shot. So its fast and with rough operating (holding it in one hand, quick turns) and does that really well, but it comes with some motion.

Also your lens is really wide, which again is a stylistic choice i wouldn't make but yours is so wide that you obviously like it, and use it well. A very wide lens can mask alot of rough handling, like its easier to film wide or you're holding the camera with your hand then it is to film lets say 85mm.

i myself are quite happy with the 16mm IS option that i have, although i might prefer even wider. I have a 12mm tokina lens that i adore but no IS and my speedbooster is not talking aperture with that lens. But in the end the lens and gimbal should work on very wide as more of a closer lens.

the best way to test your set-up (i think) is to use a close IS lens range (mine is 35mm max, still pretty close) and see how the images hold up. If it looks good then, then you know you have a winner. Imho.

also, just wanted to say i see your name popping up everywhere and answering questions people have and that i think thats really cool, you helping out so many people. Thanks! A lot!

@jeftavarwijk , yes I agree, the Fisheye is a bit too much on the above videos, but inside the boats really the only one I have vide enough, and I carried only one lens with me. I was testing different gimbals and controllers and focus on the testing being inside the boats, Then just made some videos of the material I shot, and when editing, I was hoping I had also longer lens with me..

Here is also Inside the boats videos, they are on purpose minimally edited. I did not get as much usable material that I was hoping, only one of the 3 gimbals was really up of this task.

https://vimeo.com/album/3249454

The walking motion is much present on the videos especially because the subjects are very close and stationary (people would not show so much walking motion as they move anyway) On my experience wide lens (especially fisheye) does not really mask the motion, it is more exaggerating it when the object is really close.

Here is couple of examples with long lens I think they show less up and down movement, when the subject is far.

This was with 105 mm + SpeedBooster on 2.3 crop (GH4 4k) and cropped on editing, so maybe about 200 mm effectively.



On next up-to 0:40 wide and then long. Wide shows a lot up and down, not on horizon, but on the ground, The long does not show that much up and down as there is no reference close the camera. Similar walking on both.


What I just mean, standing 10 meters of everything and wide lens masks all movement, but being less than 1 metre from the subject, not so. Of course long lens would be even worse, but normally not usable in 1 m, unless macro, and for that I would not use gimbal.

With wide lens the uneven speed is a problem (forward and back motion) For this type of motion I think SW stabilisation could be good, if I would find such SW that removes that kind of wobble .

Thanks jeftavarwijk . When I took the above video I did not have yet a control for the follow and joystick speed, now I have a separate button that can be used to select the speed from 5 levels and that helps a lot. On to Moose video the gimbal was set for the 8-15 mm so the follow speed was fast, not well suitable at all for the 24-105 mm that I changed when saw the moos, so the follow is a bit sudden for the long focal length.

Your video looks really dream like, nice smooth movement and I much like the tree shot at the end looking up and rotating.